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Actual Production Date VS "Scheduled Production Date"

Started by 6bblgt, February 21, 2017, 02:17:07 PM

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6bblgt

Quote from: 7E-Bodies on October 20, 2017, 07:06:17 PM
Ok, how about this one...door vin/decal shows she was born 5/25.   This should be interesting.  Thanks for all you do!

@7E-Bodies 1973 should have the M-month / D-day / H-hour on the door sticker - do you have a pic of yours?

1ownr


@Cuda Cody I started one, but it is very early in the process - need more info, especially broadcast sheets from cars with original door decals
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We have the complete broadcast sheet and original door decal and we just found the carpet tag for our '71

judy

70a66

I have a 70' challenger spd 10-69 but interested actual build date! I believe dan is who im needing to speak with!


70a66

Mine is spd 10-69 but how do i find actual build date

303 Mopar

Quote from: 70a66 on October 21, 2017, 06:02:06 AM
I have a 70' challenger spd 10-69 but interested actual build date! I believe dan is who im needing to speak with!

You can tag him like this - @6bblgt and it will send him a notification.

Cuda Cody

Welcome @70a66    :welcome:  Yes, @6bblgt  is the man to talk too about your build date.    :banana:

7E-Bodies

Older pic.  Not at home at the moment.  Sorry for the black out. 
1970 Challenger R/T Numbers Matching 440 Auto in F8 Quad Green


B5Cuda440-6

Quote from: 6bblgt on October 21, 2017, 12:04:30 AM
Quote from: B5Cuda440-6 on October 20, 2017, 02:17:18 PM
Dan,

Based on the information you've collected thus far, is it possible to tell the difference in the SPD vs. Actual Production Date for 70 LA built Cuda's that do not have a broadcast sheet? I'm asking because that's the case with my Cuda...it is a LA car with a SPD of B21.

Rob

@B5Cuda440-6  I haven't figured out LA "with a sheet" - it appears the sheet tell the car's start position on a day, but I don't see any clue to WHAT DAY?

with around 300 cars per day - I think LA had better control over scheduling/production and built them closer to their scheduled dates - but that's just a guess

best to check all the dated components & see how close to 11/21/69 they are - but another problem for LA is that some of the parts travelled from the other side of the country

Thanks Dan. Hopefully you'll be able to compile some better data moving forward on cars from LA, although I know it will difficult as the majority of them have no broadcast sheets.



6bblgt

Quote from: 7E-Bodies on October 21, 2017, 07:11:39 AM
Older pic.  Not at home at the moment.  Sorry for the black out.

lower left

053007 = completed (MDH) MAY 30 during the 7AM hour

Pentastarnut


340challconvert

#70
Own a 1970 A66 Challenger convertible since 1979
I always like to date crunch the numbers and would be real curious as to the actual build date of my car.
My Challenger has a SPD of A06 (October 6, 1969.)
As I finally start to restore the car, I pull the date codes off of parts.
I have quite a range of dates
I thought the date tag on the k frame and the stenciled date in yellow on the differential could at least help narrow down an actual assembly date.
List of parts dates I thought would be helpful:

1970 Challenger A66 Convertible
Scheduled Build date   A06= Oct 6, 1969     Monday


Brake caliper bracket RT            267-9        = Sept. 24, 1969   Wed
Brake caliper bracket Lft          279-9       = Oct 6, 1969      Mon
Collapse Spare            L/9   9~17           = Sept 17, 1969   Wed
Control Arm Lower Rt   921 & 274   274 day 1969    = Oct 1, 1969      Wed
Differential (yellow stencil assembly date)   295           = Oct 22, 1969      Wed
Glass lft rear (non tint)         2699              = Sept 26,1969           Fri
K Frame  # 2962012            2939-1            = Oct 20, 1969 sft 1    Mon
Radiator  #2998974            2359              = Aug 23, 1969    Sat
Radio Speaker              # 2894778      2939    = Oct 20, 1969            Mon
Rugs   JP Stevens   1667FX8                            = Oct 11, 1969      Sat
Window lft rear   L-9         9\17 5.5                   = Sept 9, 1969      Tues

I also found a rug date label under the rug dated 10/11 and a sheet of paper with the year 1969 and lines on it (looks like some sort of record card- have no idea what it was?)

With a scheduled build date of A06, I would think the K frame date 10/20 and the differential stencil 10/22 would be toward the end of my car's assembly date.

Also found the rug date tag and a sheet of paper with the year 1969 and lines on it under the rug  (never saw the sheet with the 1969 year on it before)

My thoughts on this: the date code on the K frame 10/20 and the stencil on the differential 10/22 would indicate a late October completion date.
I have no build sheet, but an intact data plate and some original paperwork from the original owner.



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340challconvert

Copy of 1969 "card" under the rug  (what is this?)
and rug date tag
Data plate for the A66 Challenger


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340challconvert

#72
My main thought on identifying or at least estimating actual build dates vs the SBD.
I used date codes from parts on my Challenger I thought could add some build data around the SBD.  My SBD is October 6th

The k frame on my car has a date of Oct 20th. This is a major structural component that would need to be installed to build the car.
Was the motor and k frame installed as one unit in the later part of any build?

My differential (install date) has the yellow date stencil listed as October 22nd.

My am center dash radio speaker has a date code of October 20th.

Would it be worth making a chart of date codes for your cars parts and would this narrow down the time that the car was built and or finished? 
Just my thoughts on this.  :thinking:

ADDENDUM:
JUST FOUND THE ORIGINAL WARRANTY CARD WITH A DELIVERY DATE OF 11/17/69  :veryexcited:


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6bblgt

@340challconvert does your car have its original door sticker?

yes, the components with their own dates would have been completed & date stamped before/during the car assembly process - so if the original differential assembly is dated 10/22, that's the earliest the car could've been finished (depending where during the timeline of the build the axle gets installed).

I decoded a broadcast sheet for another FY1 340 Challenger convertible scheduled the same "A06" (10/26/69) that wasn't "In Plant/In Process" until 10/24 - it appears your car is also going to be that late.

https://forum.e-bodies.org/interior/6/rug-date-code-data-card/4104/msg59228#msg59228

can you take a close-up pic of the text to the right of the "1969" on the cars found under the carpet?

the engine/transmission was mounted on the K-frame, complete with front suspension, before being installed

340challconvert

#74
6bblgt
Thanks for your response
Picture of the door sticker is October 1969

Doesn't  A06 SBD represent October 6th?

Very early, but I think you are on track
The late k frame October date was probably toward the end of the build.
Click on the 1969 card image. it was taken with a high quality lens and should enlarge easily
I will try to enhance the pic and re-post



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