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Actual Production Date VS "Scheduled Production Date"

Started by 6bblgt, February 21, 2017, 02:17:07 PM

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Marksmopar1

70 Challenger R/T 440 Automatic U code, FT6, Black roof/ interior
A01 A36 A62 Just about completed assembly

ek3

would the window sticker be the most reliable way to tell the " actual  build date " since it went on at the end ? mine has the spd as 11- 2- 70 and the completed sticker date of 10-27-70 ...the door sticker is 10-70 .. also, it would show what factory installed options actually came on a car since that is what you paid for ?

6bblgt

it appears that the date on the bottom of the window sticker is the "print date" for that document

I believe this is the date it was releases to the factory or factory floor to be built, typically the "Actual Production Date" is 4-6 days later 

while I have not seen any factory window stickers that differed from equipment listed on factory broadcast sheet, invoice, ADSN or fender tag ..... I have seen two invoices with notations on them for equipment that was different than what was actually on a delivered car (in both cases missing OPTIONS).


ek3

I saw the post about the fender tag being coded for n96 but it was delivered without the shaker.. the one that now has it.. a shaker shortage car?

PLY474

@ek3   My 74 has a A17 (Wed) SPD, 1004 (Thurs) Window Sticker Date, and 1010 (Wed) Door Sticker Date.  So build date was 6 days after the window sticker as said by 6bblgt. 



anlauto

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ratroaster

Quote from: anlauto on October 26, 2020, 01:47:16 PM
Quote from: ek3 on October 26, 2020, 01:28:49 PM
was referring to this car .. with tags and sheet says it came with a shaker...would the window sticker show the shaker option if it was not installed ?? just for the conversation, not trying to stir things up !! https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Dodge-Challenger/184466612426?hash=item2af31120ca%3Ag%3ANY8AAOSwKFlfclTK&LH_ItemCondition=3000&ul_ref=https%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F711-53200-19255-0%252F1%253Fmpre%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fitm%25252F1970-Dodge-Challenger%25252F184466612426%25253Fhash%25253Ditem2af31120ca%2525253Ag%2525253ANY8AAOSwKFlfclTK%252526LH_ItemCondition%25253D3000%2526campid%253D5338071934%2526toolid%253D10001%2526customid%253D%2526srcrot%253D711-53200-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D2659330823917%2526rvr_ts%253D6695d9b61750ac3db765ee1bffbe2701

My question about that car...is how would YOU restore it...with the shaker hood to match the tag and sheet(if it has one) or with a rally hood to match the story ?
However the owner wants to restore it.  It will always be questioned either way you go so build it to your liking. Most in the hobby know the Shaker was not available on Challengers until late 70 model year. I have always heard a few were made early in the model year but have never seen solid proof. 

Morty426

This car reminds me of a story I was told in the early 80s

A guy stopped by a service station I was working at because I had my 70 Challenger R/T SE parked out front.  He came to tell me the story that his brother had ordered a 70 Challenger R/T with a Shaker hood but they never shipped it because the hood was later determined to be unsafe with the additional hood bracing so in an accident it would not easily fold and would go through the window and take the head off the crash dummy.

My own 70 Shaker Challenger has an SPD of 630 and has the crumple zones in the hood so that it will fold in an accident. 

:thinking:

VCODE

Quote from: Morty426 on October 27, 2020, 12:35:55 PM
This car reminds me of a story I was told in the early 80s

A guy stopped by a service station I was working at because I had my 70 Challenger R/T SE parked out front.  He came to tell me the story that his brother had ordered a 70 Challenger R/T with a Shaker hood but they never shipped it because the hood was later determined to be unsafe with the additional hood bracing so in an accident it would not easily fold and would go through the window and take the head off the crash dummy.

My own 70 Shaker Challenger has an SPD of 630 and has the crumple zones in the hood so that it will fold in an accident. 

:thinking:

Same thing happened to me in 1970 with my Challenger R/T order, came with a R/T budge hood
My Shaker Challenger now has a SPD of 610
Bob

TGGodfrey

@6bblgt What do you make of mine for a production date.

70 Cuda AAR
BS23J0B292434
SPD April 2nd

And how do you do this?

Terry


6bblgt

I don't have anything additional on your AAR except its VON M03193 .....
@TGGodfrey  do you have a broadcast sheet?  if so, post it or email to dhead68@hotmail.com - if you still have an original door sticker, I bet is shows MARCH (3-70)  :thinking:

I have 402 "SCHEDULED" e-bodies "In Plant/In Process" from Friday 3/20/70 thru Friday 4/3/70

I've been collecting & "crunching" lots of data


Ifixmycarmyself

Quote from: Morty426 on October 27, 2020, 12:35:55 PM
This car reminds me of a story I was told in the early 80s

A guy stopped by a service station I was working at because I had my 70 Challenger R/T SE parked out front.  He came to tell me the story that his brother had ordered a 70 Challenger R/T with a Shaker hood but they never shipped it because the hood was later determined to be unsafe with the additional hood bracing so in an accident it would not easily fold and would go through the window and take the head off the crash dummy.

My own 70 Shaker Challenger has an SPD of 630 and has the crumple zones in the hood so that it will fold in an accident. 

:thinking:


I'm working for the authorities on vehicle regulations and we are appointed by the government to cover the regulatory work under UN in Geneva. US and Canada is of course also there and during the years we have often talked about the hobby during lunches and dinners. They know I'm interested in these cars and one official from Canada, working at that time, told me the same thing. Production was stopped and the bracing had to be changed. We often hear about a shortage but perhaps it's a combo. Perhaps there was a shortage because production was stopped. Maybe someone here knows more about this  :notsure:

MKA

@6bblgt

Hey Dan,   Wondering if you have any information on my car.  Fender tag pic attached.  No build sheets or door tag. 
This is an awesome thread btw (amongst all the other awesome threads)

Thanks
Matt

6bblgt

@MKA I don't have a lot for you - it appears the 152xxx VON '70 Challengers were Y16 "SALES BANK" cars spec'd by Chrysler that would've been available to any Dodge dealership, but most of the cars I have locations for are in Georgia or Florida (I don't know where they originated)

but again, A35 "trailer towing package" seems odd for a "sales bank" convertible   :dunno:

& as far as known 407 "scheduled" cars - I show them built between 4/1/70 & 4/7/70