CUDA 1970 original power steering Firm Feel stage 3 VS Borgeson power steering

[7212Mopar]

That Borgeson coupler requires cutting of the steering shaft. The one made by Bergman Autocraft does not and is 100% reversible if that matters. It also looks more like factory and install same as factory.

[THE ZUKE]

Today it was works on the steering box.
As I wrote, I wanted to mount a BORGESON case.
Well it's not that easy when the 4-in-1 exhaust.
To remove the power steering original box from above because it is impossible, you must remove the battery, the battery holder, 3 spark plugs, an exhaust manifold, the power steering pump, purge the circuit water as water comes out of the manifold screws.
So when I'm told it takes 3 or 4 hours to make the change, I say it's just a joke ....
In my case, it will take at least between 8 to 10 hours.
For information, on a CUDA 70, there is no need to cut the steering column to fit the BORGESON coupler because it fits right.

For the moment, on pictures, just the new box is fixed 

[THE ZUKE]

 

One of my friends told me "To change the power steering box by a Borgeson, it's just easy, only 3 or 4 hours !!!". 

Yes but not on my car because of the 4/1 collector.

It's just impossible to reassemble the Borgeson coupling without moving the axis of the steering column.

What is the new problem? Have a small extractor ....

Once again blocked in the works because I have to make one.

I am sure without the collector 4/1, the adaptation must be quickly but not with it because it hinders for everything and everywhere

Special thanks to @Cody for his link, really it's better with it. 

[scal]

5 bolts my friend. Nn need of  extractor.

[THE ZUKE]

News of the day. 

Works finished about the Borgeson box. 

First test on roads and really a good surprise,  the direction is really better than the original.

The sensations are close to a current car.

I have to change the kneecaps because of some rubber covers are cut and realize too a complete geometry of the front axle (New topic launched).

[THE ZUKE]

5 bolts my friend. Nn need of  extractor.

A plate with a large central screw for pushing the axle. And 2 1/2 inch screws screwed into the slots provided. 4 key turns and everything came out.

[FSHTAIL]

Any more pictures?
Did you get the power steering pump, bracket and the whole shebang?
Any pictures of the bracket and the power steering pump?

[THE ZUKE]

Any more pictures?
Did you get the power steering pump, bracket and the whole shebang?
Any pictures of the bracket and the power steering pump?

No I didn't change the power steering pump, it wasn't useful because mine is in very good condition.
I changed 2 hoses betwin power steering BORGESON and the original power steering pump
No need to change de pitarm if you will choose the good power steering BORGESON (Mine for a 70 cuda).
You will need to measure the diameter of the axle (Pitarm) before ordering the BORGESON power steering.

[FSHTAIL]

 Any long term updates?

I just bought the full setup.   

According to several people the stock power steering pump is inadequate to push the Borgeson unit properly

[THE ZUKE]

Nothing special since installation.

Everything works perfectly 

[FSHTAIL]

What kind of power steering sauce are you running in it? 😁

[THE ZUKE]

Oil DEXTRON III

[MOPAR MITCH]

For power steering pump, be certain you're using ONLY the Saginaw style pump.... the older Federal pump will NOT keep up with any quick action LRLRL etc of the gear box, and even worse when the rpms increase.

NOTE: I'm aware there are some newer late-model design pumps entering the market... I'm not sure IF they are as good as the Saginaw pumps (in other words, not having the power assist going away with rapid LRLRLR actions).

[7212Mopar]

I have a rebuilt 73 Signaw style pump that feeds the hydroboost brake system and then the Borgeson box. In curb side parking maneuvers, engine idle around 850-900 RPM, the pump makes squeaky noises. I tighten the drive belt and it did not help. The noise goes away if I gas it and increase engine RPM to about 1200.

[gzig5]

For power steering pump, be certain you're using ONLY the Saginaw style pump.... the older Federal pump will NOT keep up with any quick action LRLRL etc of the gear box, and even worse when the rpms increase.

NOTE: I'm aware there are some newer late-model design pumps entering the market... I'm not sure IF they are as good as the Saginaw pumps (in other words, not having the power assist going away with rapid LRLRLR actions).

That's an interesting note about the Federal vs Saginaw pump.  I specifically asked the Borgeson rep that recently popped up on FEBO, if my '71 Federal pump was compatible and he said no problem.  I wonder if they are aware of the situation you describe?