removing steering box

[Cuda Cody]

I'm maybe 5 minutes from Firm Feel if anyone needs to help with anything.   

[anlauto]

I'm maybe 5 minutes from Firm Feel if anyone needs to help with anything.   

Sure can you grab about 2-3 power steering boxes for me and put them in your "carry-on" when you come to Carlisle

[mjb765]

was thinking stage II.....should I re-think?

Yes, go Stage III!  I did it on my Charger and it is a big difference and not too tight at all.  I've heard several guys that went with Stage II and wish they went III.   

great...more decisions......

[cataclysm80]

Here's another vote for Firm Feel Stage III.
It's not even close to being to firm for me.  My car is regularly street driven.  I'd say it has roughly the same feel as a newer car.

[mjb765]

OK..Got the box out...thanks for the help everybody.


Firm feel stage III will be ordered tomorrow. Also thinking about the fast ratio pitman and idler arms.

[headejm]

Do you have the steering column loose?  It needs to be free so you don't collapse the steering shaft.

Cody, can you elaborate on this comment? Your "don't collapse the steering shaft" comment has me worried as I contemplate removing my gearbox to have it rebuilt by FF.   

[Cuda Cody]

His coupler was aftermarket so it didn't look like it had any room to move up the steering column shaft without putting pressure on the shaft pins.  Stock couplers have room to move.  So wanted him to be careful not to damage his steering shaft pins.

You can see the steering shaft pins at the 16:27 mark of this video:

https://youtu.be/49L2sIR9OYc

Do you have the steering column loose?  It needs to be free so you don't collapse the steering shaft.

Cody, can you elaborate on this comment? Your "don't collapse the steering shaft" comment has me worried as I contemplate removing my gearbox to have it rebuilt by FF.   

[HP_Cuda]

Interesting coupler there on a stock box.

FF fast ratio arms on a stage III box, hmm maybe give a jingle to FF and see if it's what you expect.

[mjb765]

Interesting coupler there on a stock box.

FF fast ratio arms on a stage III box, hmm maybe give a jingle to FF and see if it's what you expect.

Was going to call  them tomorrow to ask.

[headejm]

Firm Feel offers three Stages of "feel" on their power steering gear boxes. Some mopar guys shim their Saginaw power steering pump's flow valve to also improve "feel". My question: What is the optimum set-up for the gear box and/or power steering pump to give the best "feel"? I'm going to send my stock gearbox to FF and I have some of the shim washers for my stock Saginaw pump. I'm sure I can experiment with the shims but I will need to tell FF which stage of gear box I want. 

[303 Mopar]

OK..Got the box out...thanks for the help everybody.


Firm feel stage III will be ordered tomorrow. Also thinking about the fast ratio pitman and idler arms.

Make sure the fast ratio pitman arm will work with your set up (engine, headers, etc).

[mjb765]

OK..Got the box out...thanks for the help everybody.


Firm feel stage III will be ordered tomorrow. Also thinking about the fast ratio pitman and idler arms.

Make sure the fast ratio pitman arm will work with your set up (engine, headers, etc).

Yep..thanks......my 383 has stock manifolds on it.

[Brads70]

Another vote for Stage III 

and another vote for stage 3 and the fast ratio arms while your at it! 

I wonder if that coupler has something to do with why your box was leaking? The stock set up allows for some flex in and out. That u-joint does not? I mention this as I'd hate to see you install the FF box then develop a leak down the road?

[cataclysm80]

You can see the steering shaft pins at the 16:27 mark of this video:
https://youtu.be/49L2sIR9OYc

That's a nice video Cody.
Where can I get one of those wiring tools to disconnect the metal wiring end from the plastic bit?

[Cuda Cody]

@cataclysm80  I think this is the kit I have, but there's lots of them out there that do the same thing.

https://www.amazon.com/Lisle-57750-Wire-Terminal-Tool/dp/B007WQQHA2

You can see the steering shaft pins at the 16:27 mark of this video:
https://youtu.be/49L2sIR9OYc

That's a nice video Cody.
Where can I get one of those wiring tools to disconnect the metal wiring end from the plastic bit?