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69 383 Formula S 4 speed

Started by Shane Kelley, September 20, 2017, 01:26:58 PM

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anlauto

Wow...you move quickly...from a bare block yesterday at lunch time to a complete motor in 25 hours  :woohoo: :worship:
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Shane Kelley

Quote from: anlauto on October 27, 2017, 11:47:47 AM
Wow...you move quickly...from a bare block yesterday at lunch time to a complete motor in 25 hours  :woohoo: :worship:
I wish I was that fast.  The car is actually a lot further along than the pics show. Should be caught up and current in about 3 or 4 weeks. Stay tuned. I usually just add a group of photos and progress once a week. I threw a bonus group in this week. :)

Roadman

   Really like the way you did the plug wires Shane.  Question : Is the coil an MSD Blaster ?  Just ask because I've heard its not good to mount them horizontal. We used an MSD Hi Vibration on toxicwolf car. 


RzeroB

Shane, you're an artist! You might of said already ... but how exactly did you manage to squeeze 496 cubes out of a 383 block again??
Cheers!
Tom

Tis' better to have owned classic Mopars and lost than to have never owned at all (apologies to Alfred Lord Tennyson)

Chryco Psycho

It will be interesting to see how the Cforce clutch holds up , with almost 500 CI my bet is not long , , I had one that actually made it through a whole weekend once , well not quite , new clutch on monday after installing on Fri  :Thud:

Cudakiller70

Is there a dent or crease in #1 header tube?
Watching "you guys" build cars is like watching pro golfers on TV. You make it Look sooo easy, until I try it.  :Thud: I didn't play golf very long and anymore. Awesome build  :bigthumb:

Shane Kelley

Quote from: RzeroB on October 27, 2017, 01:17:47 PM
Shane, you're an artist! You might of said already ... but how exactly did you manage to squeeze 496 cubes out of a 383 block again??
Pretty much it's all in the stroke. Bore is only 60 over.  4.310 bore and  4.25 stroke. Stock stroke is 3.38.  Compression should be 10.7 to 1.  You can see in this pic how close it comes to oil pickup even after a little massaging. Only block mods needed was notching each lower cylinder to clear the heads of the rod bolts. Block had to be decked 60 also to achieve zero deck. But that may have been needed with a standard rebuild anyway.


Shane Kelley

Quote from: Cudakiller70 on October 27, 2017, 02:11:56 PM
Is there a dent or crease in #1 header tube?
Watching "you guys" build cars is like watching pro golfers on TV. You make it Look sooo easy, until I try it.  :Thud: I didn't play golf very long and anymore. Awesome build  :bigthumb:

If your talking about right where it goes to the head. That's just where it's been stretched from round to the square to match the ports. All of the tubes have that it just shows up best in that pic on #1.

It might look easy but it's not. I'm still dealing with clutch linkage interference issues. That sucks since everything is in the car now and there is no room to work.  :pullinghair: Every time I work on or build these big block or Hemi cars the more I love 340's.  No they don't have the stump pulling torque but when it comes time to work on them life is a whole lot better.

Shane Kelley

Quote from: Roadman on October 27, 2017, 12:54:22 PM
   Really like the way you did the plug wires Shane.  Question : Is the coil an MSD Blaster ?  Just ask because I've heard its not good to mount them horizontal. We used an MSD Hi Vibration on toxicwolf car.
Thank you!
Yes it is and I have had nothing but issues on my Cuda and Road Runner with them. Even a high vibration one died after 150 miles. I will need to address this before the car hits the streets.  I built this motor and assembled everything a couple years ago before the MSD problems plagued me.

RzeroB

Quote from: Shane Kelley on October 27, 2017, 02:23:41 PM
Pretty much it's all in the stroke. Bore is only 60 over.  4.310 bore and  4.25 stroke. Stock stroke is 3.38.  Compression should be 10.7 to 1.  You can see in this pic how close it comes to oil pickup even after a little massaging. Only block mods needed was notching each lower cylinder to clear the heads of the rod bolts.

Tight!! Sometimes I still think things are flexing and moving around in there and that you need more room than just a few thousandths ... but of course they are not flexing and moving around ... unless it's within millisecond before it completely lets go!!  :o
Cheers!
Tom

Tis' better to have owned classic Mopars and lost than to have never owned at all (apologies to Alfred Lord Tennyson)

RzeroB

Went by your neck of the woods last Sunday. Thought about giving you a shout and seeing what you were up to. If you are ever going to spend most of the day in the shop working on one of your projects give me a call - I'd be happy to come on out and fetch beers or whatever for you!!  :cheers:
Cheers!
Tom

Tis' better to have owned classic Mopars and lost than to have never owned at all (apologies to Alfred Lord Tennyson)


Cudakiller70

Quote from: Shane Kelley on October 27, 2017, 02:36:10 PM
Quote from: Cudakiller70 on October 27, 2017, 02:11:56 PM
Is there a dent or crease in #1 header tube?
Watching "you guys" build cars is like watching pro golfers on TV. You make it Look sooo easy, until I try it.  :Thud: I didn't play golf very long and anymore. Awesome build  :bigthumb:

If your talking about right where it goes to the head. That's just where it's been stretched from round to the square to match the ports. All of the tubes have that it just shows up best in that pic on #1.

It might look easy but it's not. I'm still dealing with clutch linkage interference issues. That sucks since everything is in the car now and there is no room to work.  :pullinghair: Every time I work on or build these big block or Hemi cars the more I love 340's.  No they don't have the stump pulling torque but when it comes time to work on them life is a whole lot better.
Would hydraulic be an option, don't really know if it would even help you there :notsure:

anlauto

Quote from: Shane Kelley on October 27, 2017, 02:36:10 PM
Quote from: Cudakiller70 on October 27, 2017, 02:11:56 PM
Is there a dent or crease in #1 header tube?
Watching "you guys" build cars is like watching pro golfers on TV. You make it Look sooo easy, until I try it.  :Thud: I didn't play golf very long and anymore. Awesome build  :bigthumb:

If your talking about right where it goes to the head. That's just where it's been stretched from round to the square to match the ports. All of the tubes have that it just shows up best in that pic on #1.

It might look easy but it's not. I'm still dealing with clutch linkage interference issues. That sucks since everything is in the car now and there is no room to work.  :pullinghair: Every time I work on or build these big block or Hemi cars the more I love 340's.  No they don't have the stump pulling torque but when it comes time to work on them life is a whole lot better.

Hydraulic clutch is the only way to go :alan2cents:
I've taught you everything you know....but I haven't taught you everything I know....
Check out my web site ....  Alan Gallant Automotive Restoration

Chryco Psycho

Tilton Hyd is the best way to go , McLeod offers them also
they just expand forward pushing on the front of the trans , all you need is a hose into & a bleed hose out of the belhousing , every block I have seen is taller than the factory spec & needs to be decked to bring it down to zero deck .
The engine looks great BTW  :bradsthumb:

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