The Black Ghost Challenger to be sold

[70vert]

@GrandpaKevin "Honestly every town, including my own, had their own Black Ghost."
Exactly! I'm grew up in Tulsa, OK and in late 70's and beyond was at the dragstrip every Friday then cruising on Brookside then out to the Okmulgee B-Line to street race. There were quite a few fast, and well known cars that everyone wanted to beat (don't recall giving them nicknames though). I lost more than I won but it was a blast!

No doubt all the recent publicity will drive up the interest and price, whether intentional or not.

[usraptor]

What difference does it make whether the current owner is "promoting" the car to get a better price or not?  If you were selling your car wouldn't you want to get "top" dollar?  I know I would.  As long as he's not lying about the car and representing it as something it's not, i.e., number's matching, original, etc. more power to him to get top dollar.  The car, as equipped, is rare in it's own right as a survivor, especially with the Gator top, and will probably command a good price just because of that, not withstanding any "celebrity" status which I seriously doubt will add any money to the selling price.  A few years back either Mecum or Barrett-Jackson sold a '67 427 Vette (I believe) that the owner never even registered. He only drove it at night and would return in to an old broken down single stall wooden garage during the cover of darkness.  It also became a neighborhood legend since it was never seen during the daytime and even rarely seen at night and the owner never showed the car to anyone.  The owner eventually, parked it for unknown reasons, and it sat under a tarp in the garage for years before if was rediscovered and was eventually sold for top dollar due to it's low miles, and equipment, not it's "celebrity" status.  I'm sure the same will happen to the "Black Ghost".  Most of us dream of finding a true "barn find" which to a certain extent the "black ghost" is and then we become cynical when the seller tries to get top dollar for his car?? 

[headejm]

Lot's of good comments about this unique E-body and I agree with most of them. I assume it will fetch a pretty penny and I don't fault the family at all for selling it for what could be life changing money for them. At the end of the day, it's just a car, just something to be collected. The family will still have all of the memories and they will now have all the money.

I'm curious what $ it will bring. To me, it needs a $100k restoration. It doesn't sound like it's running very well. I wouldn't want it in its current shape. I have no ties whatsoever to Detroit so its backstory doesn't mean much to me. It is a very cool E-body for sure. RT/SE, Hemi, 4-speed, gator top, cloth seats, triple black. Doesn't get much better than that.

[JH27N0B]

Articles I'm seeing quote Mecum as estimating it is worth 7 figures.
As a survivor with a rare mix of options car but in the large amount of patina condition it's in, I have a hard time seeing it worth north of $250,000.
Any value above that is entirely due to the story and hype. What that element is worth to a potential buyer I have no idea.
Very little to me but I'm not in the market, so my opinion doesn't count. 

[anlauto]

From day one I thought this car was over-hyped... When I saw the car in person, I thought that even more so...I'm not going to comment why I think "main stream" media picked up the story, but it certainly helped promote the car to the point where it will bring a pretty impressive bid in my opinion.

[RUNCHARGER]

Yes: Kind of where I'm at. I've seen nicer survivors, personal opinion but this one is at the point I'd be thinking about a repaint. The gator grain top is rare but has zero value to me personally as well. If I had $250k I would spend it on a different car. That's what personal taste is all about, if I was hunting and had to have a survivor car I would be more happy with a brown or green car in a bit better condition and without a vinyl top at all. We all have opinions thank goodness.
If the brothers collection picks it up that would be fine with me. They've taken alot of other nice cars out of circulation that I  miss more than this one.
A friend of mine has a survivor 71, black, 4 speed, Hemi Challenger and I absolutely love that car. This one just isn't in the same league for me.

[ec_co]

Dodge also released a Last Call limited edition Challenger Black Ghost, so if you're going to get top dollar for it now is a good time. A few somebody's going to want one to go with their modern Challenger Ghost

[dodj]

Dodge also released a Last Call limited edition Challenger Black Ghost, so if you're going to get top dollar for it now is a good time. A few somebody's going to want one to go with their modern Challenger Ghost

Somebody out there has the pockets to own and display both cars together..be kinda cool.

Like Sheldon said...As much as I like ebodies...if I was spending 7 figures on a car....it wouldn't be on an ebody. It would be red and have a prancing horse on the hood. Or maybe black with a stylized papaya 'M'.

[Chryco Psycho]

All that aside it is an extremely rare car , simply put there are only 23 R/T SE Hemi 4 spds , I have seen 5+ in person in my life , add in Gator top & black so 1-1 .

[torredcuda]

All that aside it is an extremely rare car , simply put there are only 23 R/T SE Hemi 4 spds , I have seen 5+ in person in my life , add in Gator top & black so 1-1 .

Rare car with cool options for sure, I wouldn`t pay any premium for the stories behind it. I`d rather have a Hemicuda anyways, not that I can afford either. 

[7212Mopar]

I just finished reading a new Hagerty article on the Black Ghost that will be auction. It is a rare original car indeed and it is not a rust bucket. I wonder if it will be on Mecum today or tomorrow. The son did what is best for his family and put his resource into good use. It is an intelligent decision due to the value of the car. If it was a lesser value Challenger from his dad, I think he would not have problem holding on.

[JH27N0B]

I just finished reading a new Hagerty article on the Black Ghost that will be auction. It is a rare original car indeed and it is not a rust bucket. I wonder if it will be on Mecum today or tomorrow. The son did what is best for his family and put his resource into good use. It is an intelligent decision due to the value of the car. If it was a lesser value Challenger from his dad, I think he would not have problem holding on.

There seems to be some confusion on the "black ghost" being at the Mecum auction.
It is at the Mecum auction in Kissimmee right now.  it's on display with a new black ghost Challenger.
It is not being auctioned at Kissimmee.  It is displayed as a preview for Mecum's Indianapolis auction in May, which is where it will be auctioned.  We won't know for another 4 months what it bids to.
Seeing the not very high sale price yesterday of the Big Willy Daytona, I'd guess the Black Ghost story isn't going to add to its value like they are trying to suggest it will. 
Actually I think the Big Willy Daytona sale at $247,000 is the least I've seen a Daytona sell for in a few years!
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-539529/1969-dodge-daytona/

[Brads70]

I was kinda surprised also about Big Willie's Daytona, thought it would sell for much more.
This article might explain why?
https://www.motortrend.com/features/big-willie-robinson-1969-dodge-daytona-duke-and-duchess/?sm_id=organic%3Asm_id%3Afb%3AHRN%3Atrueanthem&fbclid=IwAR0PCtyt5aqHE75RqKXmmmfiFIaL1lCVV1yu4z0QW9d2ldStSzGuaG82f7M

[7212Mopar]

Watching Mecum on TV now. Thanks for the heads up otherwise I will be scratching my heads.

[moparroy]

Curious about one thing on this car. Watched a few videos and on certain low angles of the rear end you see something below the leaf springs in the rear. Best shot I can find of this is the attached from about 12:49 of the street racing legend video. At first I thought some kind of spring helper - but they say it has HD rears. What is that? Some kind of a launch / traction aid? Not sure I have ever seen that same thing on another car ebody or other.