E-body 440/727 Kick Down Linkage

[Crocha617]

Does anyone know how to tell the difference between a 383 & 440 kickdown linkage? I guess the length of the longest rod is probably supposed to be different. I'm having trouble getting my Challenger to down shift into the passing gear. It was a 383 car and now has a 440. I suspect the kickdown linkage they used may be a 383 linkage. We adjusted it to be as long as possible and it still isn't doesn't seem long enough. If anyone has a measurement of each so I can be 100% sure before I buy another one I would appreciate it.

[MoparLeo]

Any other details like was it a 2 bbl and is now a 4bbl ? Transmission work done like a shift kit ?

[Crocha617]

Any other details like was it a 2 bbl and is now a 4bbl ? Transmission work done like a shift kit ?

Sorry don't have a whole lot of info I didn't build it. It was originally a 383 RT that was upgraded to a 440. I don't know anything about the transmission.

[Skdmark]

Is it the '70 and earlier 3 pc kickdown or the '71 and up one piece?

70 and earlier
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-440-4BRL-Passing-Gear-Kick-Down-Linkage-Set-E-B-Body-Cuda-Charger-1966-70/124581525615?hash=item1d01a3386f:g:CEYAAOSw6DdZkuh6


71 and up
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-440-4BRL-Passing-Gear-Kick-Down-Linkage-Set-B-E-Body-Coronet-Charger/124447849436?hash=item1cf9ab7bdc:g:uEEAAOSwVDlgCDQd

[Crocha617]

Is it the '70 and earlier 3 pc kickdown or the '71 and up one piece?

70 and earlier
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-440-4BRL-Passing-Gear-Kick-Down-Linkage-Set-E-B-Body-Cuda-Charger-1966-70/124581525615?hash=item1d01a3386f:g:CEYAAOSw6DdZkuh6


71 and up
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-440-4BRL-Passing-Gear-Kick-Down-Linkage-Set-B-E-Body-Coronet-Charger/124447849436?hash=item1cf9ab7bdc:g:uEEAAOSwVDlgCDQd

It's the 1970 and earlier setup.

[Skdmark]

@Crocha617  Might have to get out a magnifying glass. 

Link to the image from Hot Rod
https://www.hotrod.com/articles/the-lowdown-on-stock-torqueflite-kick-down-linkage/?galleryimageid=891

3rd from the top on the left is labeled 383
4th from the top in the left is labeled 440

[Montclaire]

I might have one, will look later today. Did you measure the one that you have?

[Montclaire]

Top one is 13" from tip to tip without the extension. That's the longest one I have. Shaft is definitely B or RB.

[Crocha617]

I should be able to get it on a lift this weekend and have a better look. I will pull it off and measure it as well. I feel like it's the shorter one that's on there now.