Quarantine or not?

[mopartaz]

More contagious than a flu because its a man made bio weapon.

[JH27N0B]

More contagious than a flu because its a man made bio weapon.

Though theories that the virus was bioengineered and then escaped from a bioweapon research lab have been widely debunked by the scientific community, there is growing evidence it did escape from an infectious disease research facility.  If that turns out to be true, it will prove to be China's Chernobyl. 
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/coronavirus-china-trail-leading-back-to-wuhan-labs/
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-19-not-human-made-lab-genetic-analysis-nature

[torredcuda]

Wife's sister just tested positive but not surprised as she is a flight attendant.

[anlauto]

Up North in Bobcaygeon ON the Covid-19 got into a nursing home 17 people have died in the last week or so ....Can you imagine your Mother or Father dying alone in a place like that and you're not allowed to visit with them whatsoever 

Only 5 days have past since I wrote this and the number of deaths has climbed to 27 in this one building alone...

[js27]

Up North in Bobcaygeon ON the Covid-19 got into a nursing home 17 people have died in the last week or so ....Can you imagine your Mother or Father dying alone in a place like that and you're not allowed to visit with them whatsoever 

Only 5 days have past since I wrote this and the number of deaths has climbed to 27 in this one building alone...

That is terrible but Older people tend to have more health problems and therefore at at the greatest rick. My Mom is 92 and still in very good health ( for her age) but I doubt she would survive this. Thankfully she still lives in her own house.  The county I live in has over 300 cases and 1 death ( also a elderly person with pre existing health problems).  Lets put things in perspective. The US has a little over 10,000 death. 10,000 may sound like a lot but you are talking about a population of 350 Million. I did some research last night and found that in the US 800,000 die every year from heart disease-that is 2191 people a day. 36,000 die in car accidents. That is almost 100 people a day. I am not trying to down play this virus but it is not the end of days like the media is trying to push. It is more sensationalism than anything else. Proof is in the putting that you only here the number of deaths on the news and never hear the number of recoveries--WHY is that you have to ask.
JS27

[anlauto]

I agree the media is certainly trying to bring it to everybody's attention and making it a worldwide concern...I see South Carolina is only up 4 deaths since yesterday so that's really no big deal whatsoever....and New York, being one of your largest cities, has had to actual only deal with 4758 deaths so far, I guess that is pretty reasonable seeing how most of them are old and were going to die anyways !

[JH27N0B]

February just called, they want their "this is just a bad case of the flu" argument back! 
They don't build field hospitals every year for flu, in fact 1918 was the last time they did that I'm aware of.  Or clear out the hospitals by canceling elective surgeries etc to make room for an influx of car accident victims or heart attacks.
My mom is in an assisted living place and so far 5 cases and 2 deaths, but all in all they do seem to be doing a good job there keeping things under control as 4 of the cases all were announced over 2 weeks ago.  The 5th case, and death, was at the hospital but I don't know if he contracted it at the assisted living center or in the hospital.
She's on the first floor with a patio, so I was able to go there Saturday to drop off a flower planter on her patio and chat for a few minutes from a distance, which is better than nothing at least.
Ben Shapiros Sunday night show had a very interesting interviews with several prominent health experts and a famous economist, and the health experts suggested that vulnerable populations such as seniors might not be able to go out until next year.  My mom is 86, I can't imagine her having to go another year without being able to go out to a movie, concert, dinner or family event...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A7GtUE5sx-Y

[torredcuda]

I turned off the mainstream "news" 25 years ago due to hype an sensationalism but I really think the experts are correct that if we let this virus run it`s course without all these extreme measures the death toll could have been 5-10x worse than what it is going to be. It is not just affecting elderly with health conditions and  a lot more contagous than the flu.

[blown motor]

That is terrible but Older people tend to have more health problems and therefore at at the greatest rick. My Mom is 92 and still in very good health ( for her age) but I doubt she would survive this. Thankfully she still lives in her own house.  The county I live in has over 300 cases and 1 death ( also a elderly person with pre existing health problems).  Lets put things in perspective. The US has a little over 10,000 death. 10,000 may sound like a lot but you are talking about a population of 350 Million. I did some research last night and found that in the US 800,000 die every year from heart disease-that is 2191 people a day. 36,000 die in car accidents. That is almost 100 people a day. I am not trying to down play this virus but it is not the end of days like the media is trying to push. It is more sensationalism than anything else. Proof is in the putting that you only here the number of deaths on the news and never hear the number of recoveries--WHY is that you have to ask.
JS27

Yes, let's put things in perspective. If we had practiced the stay at home policy 24/7 as we are now we wouldn't have been losing 100 people a day in car accidents. You aren't comparing apples to apples.

[js27]

U.S. Coronavirus Hospitalizations Lower than Predicted: NY Marks 75% Drop
The number of people hospitalized across the United States as a result of the novel coronavirus illness (COVID-19) is reportedly only a fraction of what some health experts projected a few days ago.
On Monday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo told reporters that in his state alone, the epicenter of the viral outbreak in the United States, new coronavirus hospitalizations dropped by about 75 percent, from 1,427 four days ago to 358 on Sunday.

Highlighting the drop in new hospitalizations in NY, the state hardest hit (131,239 cases; 4,758 deaths as of Monday) by the coronavirus, Alex Berenson, former New York Times reporter who has been following the U.S. outbreak closely, observed on Twitter on Monday: "It's over, guys. It's already over."
The large 1000 bed cruise ship docked in NY harbor to help with the predicted overflow from hospitals has a whopping 20 patients.
Here locally the MUSC Hospital just laid off 900 workers because they have no patients. The National Guard was supposed to be putting in field hospitals for the over flow--guess what there is no overflow. The hospitals around here are empty. People who are sick or hurt or had elective surgery schedule all are afraid to go to the hospitals. I am not sure what news you get in Canada or what is going on up there but here in the states is no where near as bad as the media portrays.


It's over, guys. It's already over. Longer thread coming. https://twitter.com/bespokeinvest/status/1247194815160291328 ...
Bespoke@bespokeinvest
Jim Malatras, an aide for Gov. Cuomo, reportedly indicated that projections are now showing that New York is unlikely to need 110,000 hospital beds, as previously thought.
The new forecasts show "a much lower demand" that stands in the estimated 20,000-30,000 range, Jesse McKinley, the New York Times bureau chief in the NY capital of Albany, wrote on Twitter on Monday.

As I said time will tell  !!!!

[mopartaz]

I talked to personal friends who have family/friends in 3 major hospitals around here and philly and they really don't have many patients. Has anyone seen all the personal videos of empty hospitals? NO lines like the media is hyping.

[GoodysGotaCuda]

I talked to personal friends who have family/friends in 3 major hospitals around here and philly and they really don't have many patients. Has anyone seen all the personal videos of empty hospitals? NO lines like the media is hyping.

This is primarily due to people avoiding the hospital at all costs right now. Unless they are dying, they aren't going.

Nothing acute, nothing elective. I know I would do the best I could to keep out of one if I had an injury. The risk of contracting the virus versus dealing with the issue may not be worth it.


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[torredcuda]

my brother in law who is around 70 yrs old was sent home after a day in the hospital with covid-19 - 105 temp and pneumonia, due to lack of beds, I would think under normal cicumstanes they would want to keep him in there for at least a few days?

[RUNCHARGER]

Lets hope they're right JS27. Deaths here in B.C. have dropped dramatically in about the last 5 days. To be honest if everyone overreacted but it saved some pain and deaths I'm just fine with it. I avoid health care facilities at all costs anyway, I've had enough wrong diagnosis/poor care that I'll suffer at home long before going to see those quacks.

[anlauto]

U.S. Coronavirus Hospitalizations Lower than Predicted: NY Marks 75% Drop
The number of people hospitalized across the United States as a result of the novel coronavirus illness (COVID-19) is reportedly only a fraction of what some health experts projected a few days ago.
On Monday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo told reporters that in his state alone, the epicenter of the viral outbreak in the United States, new coronavirus hospitalizations dropped by about 75 percent, from 1,427 four days ago to 358 on Sunday.

Highlighting the drop in new hospitalizations in NY, the state hardest hit (131,239 cases; 4,758 deaths as of Monday) by the coronavirus, Alex Berenson, former New York Times reporter who has been following the U.S. outbreak closely, observed on Twitter on Monday: "It's over, guys. It's already over."
The large 1000 bed cruise ship docked in NY harbor to help with the predicted overflow from hospitals has a whopping 20 patients.
Here locally the MUSC Hospital just laid off 900 workers because they have no patients. The National Guard was supposed to be putting in field hospitals for the over flow--guess what there is no overflow. The hospitals around here are empty. People who are sick or hurt or had elective surgery schedule all are afraid to go to the hospitals. I am not sure what news you get in Canada or what is going on up there but here in the states is no where near as bad as the media portrays.


It's over, guys. It's already over. Longer thread coming. https://twitter.com/bespokeinvest/status/1247194815160291328 ...
Bespoke@bespokeinvest
Jim Malatras, an aide for Gov. Cuomo, reportedly indicated that projections are now showing that New York is unlikely to need 110,000 hospital beds, as previously thought.
The new forecasts show "a much lower demand" that stands in the estimated 20,000-30,000 range, Jesse McKinley, the New York Times bureau chief in the NY capital of Albany, wrote on Twitter on Monday.

As I said time will tell  !!!!

That was Monday, Tuesday is a different story...
Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo said on Tuesday that 731 more people had died in New York State, the largest single-day increase in deaths since the crisis began. The grim tally followed two days in which new deaths dropped below 600.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/ny-virus-deaths-hit-new-high-but-hospitalizations-slow-live-updates/ar-BB12gXyd?ocid=spartandhp