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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2022, 06:29:29 PM »
It seems that if the engine was run hard the lifters are fine but if it was babied the lifters can starve for oil , worth a look inside for sure .
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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2022, 07:28:44 PM »
So you saved money by buying a used engine, but now you think you might have to invest in repairs ? :clueless:
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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2022, 08:12:41 PM »
I wouldn't really say "repairs." I want to eventually do a cam swap and the decision is either now or later. Lifters are an issue on these engines.

Even if I bought a new one, I'd want to put a cam in it.

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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2022, 02:36:40 AM »
That's what I haven't seen yet. I know I'll need 3 bolts and a new stud. I was just going to wait and see which went where when it got time to install it.

Do you know if those pans accept a magnetic drain plug?

They should, looks like a standard plug, I have Milodon.
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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2022, 08:48:44 AM »
FRP said "maybe" on the 6.1 PCM programming. Hotwire gave me a flat "no." So instead of taking a chance, I'm going to sell it with the headers and existing wiring harness when I get everything I need from Hotwire. Oh well.

Off to find an engine stand so I can get the motor mobile. Anybody have the motor mount dimensions on the block? What angle they are? Need to model up a plan in solidworks.

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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2022, 08:54:13 AM »
Does anybody see an advantage in making an engine test pallet? Getting the harness that's going in the car, finding a junk bellhousing to mount the starter, a junkyard fuel tank/pump and a mechanical oil pressure gage.

My reasoning for this is to have as much ironed out as possible before dropping it in the car. I could have a running engine ready to go when I get the trans kit and the remaining small parts like brackets and lines, etc. Basically its a way to keep me interested while I wait for parts to come in.

LKQ gets me the tank with pump for $60. What are yalls thoughts?

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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2022, 10:42:48 AM »
Does anybody see an advantage in making an engine test pallet? Getting the harness that's going in the car, finding a junk bellhousing to mount the starter, a junkyard fuel tank/pump and a mechanical oil pressure gage.

My reasoning for this is to have as much ironed out as possible before dropping it in the car. I could have a running engine ready to go when I get the trans kit and the remaining small parts like brackets and lines, etc. Basically its a way to keep me interested while I wait for parts to come in.

LKQ gets me the tank with pump for $60. What are yalls thoughts?

I thought about that also, got inspired by a friend who did it for his Chevy engines that he uses in boats. He didn't use a bellhousing and no radiator, he just runs a waterhose to the engine. He also makes his own harness and programs the computer himself.

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« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2022, 11:07:51 AM »
A lot of redundant work if you already have a video and know for a fact that the engine runs fine. 

If you do anything, I'd build a bench programming harness to power the ECM and talk to it via the DLC.  Then you can hook up the ECM to the engine/chassis harness and make sure all of your sensors and wiring work since that's the only unknown.  And if the setup you're running lets you control actuators like injectors and coils, you can test those and their wiring too.

I built one because I am using HP Tuners to change the fan settings on my build, but you could also use it for electronics testing purposes like above.

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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2022, 01:50:08 PM »
A lot of redundant work if you already have a video and know for a fact that the engine runs fine. 

If you do anything, I'd build a bench programming harness to power the ECM and talk to it via the DLC.  Then you can hook up the ECM to the engine/chassis harness and make sure all of your sensors and wiring work since that's the only unknown.  And if the setup you're running lets you control actuators like injectors and coils, you can test those and their wiring too.

I built one because I am using HP Tuners to change the fan settings on my build, but you could also use it for electronics testing purposes like above.

Yeah, mostly. But I think my advantage here is proving everything works while I have space to work on it. But if I'm buying a hotwire harness/pcm, new transmission and new fuel pump/tank, the only thing I'm really testing is the motor. I'm impatient dammit.  :haha:

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