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426 HEMI Missing Just One Thing! - Can You Find It?

Started by 303 Mopar, November 18, 2017, 02:22:47 PM

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cuda hunter

I am just so very impressed with the amount of knowledge yal have on these Elephants. 
Thank you for your knowledge.  I really appreciate being able to read articles like this and learn so much
from all of you.   

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benlavigne

Had a chance to stop by Nick's over lunch, he is overwhelmed by the amount of responses he got from his question! It all started as a simple discussion at the garage, and turned into an international discussion! He certainly doesn't want to pose as the ultimate expert on Hemis, there are plenty of people with plenty of knowledge, and it is great that the topic and comments here and on Youtube always remain friendly and good-natured!
Seems a few people have pointed it out already, and the answer will be given out soon.
A lot of people on YouTube did not listen closely to what was said, here are a few ''clues'', just for my E-Bodies friends!
The engine is a 69, carbs included, but dressed up to look correct in a 70 Challenger... The specific part missing is common to both a 69 and a 70!
Doesn't relate to transmission, not sure yet what will be behind it.
He looks at YT and replies as he can, correct answers there will be rewarded in order, but if someone from this forum has a correct guess here, I'll have a NICK'S GARAGE shirt for him! ;-)

Ben

Racer57

Quote from: benlavigne on December 04, 2017, 11:11:38 AM
Seems a few people have pointed it out already, and the answer will be given out soon.
Ben
Has someone in this forum had the correct answer ?  :D
I've asked 2 times already without any response, so maybe 3rd time is a charm....  What is that engine worth, as it sits ? I've seen prices throughout the years for long blocks, short blocks and worn out hemis, but never for one thats fresh and complete like that one.


Roadman

Quote from: Racer57 on December 04, 2017, 01:20:35 PM
Quote from: benlavigne on December 04, 2017, 11:11:38 AM
Seems a few people have pointed it out already, and the answer will be given out soon.
Ben
Has someone in this forum had the correct answer ?  :D
I've asked 2 times already without any response, so maybe 3rd time is a charm....  What is that engine worth, as it sits ? I've seen prices throughout the years for long blocks, short blocks and worn out hemis, but never for one thats fresh and complete like that one.

                    I would guess $20 to $30 K.   :thinking:

HP_Cuda

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GY3R/T

 Besides the (Filtered) Clean air tube that runs from bottom of air cleaner to bottom of exhaust for choke, i noticed it's also missing The Hot Idle Compensator Valve on primary carburetor. Another part that could cause the engine to run rough at idle.

benlavigne

I will not confirm if there has been a correct answer until Nick confirms it on Youtube, sorry!

Ben


ScottSmith_Harms

I feel pretty confident that the fresh air tube that GY3 pointed out first is the answer he's after. I have to say, his speaking style was a bit difficult for me to follow in trying to follow his line of questioning.....And the fact that he is Frankensteining a 69 engine for a 1970 application didn't help either. The carburetors are completely wrong for a 70, the CAP valve missing for a 69 engine, etc. makes it confusing. Either way, after the second video and further discussion here it seems clear that he was looking for someone to spot the lack of the fresh air tube. .02

anlauto

 :iagree: "And the fact that he is Frankensteining a 69 engine for a 1970 application didn't help either."  This alone throws the whole fact of "correctness" out the window. :alan2cents:
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fc7cuda

Quote from: anlauto on December 04, 2017, 07:38:44 PM
:iagree: "And the fact that he is Frankensteining a 69 engine for a 1970 application didn't help either."  This alone throws the whole fact of "correctness" out the window. :alan2cents:

:iagree:  just make afew changes, although expensive, and offer up a correct 70 motor for discussion.   :alan2cents:

Carb studs are 69, but doesn't sound like the answer he's looking for.

ScottSmith_Harms

For those unfamiliar with the differences between 1969 and 1970 Hemi carburetors here are some restored versions of each for a visual comparison. Note that these are both 4 speed sets, the primary carbs of each (rear carbs) do not have the hot idle compensators but are otherwise complete. The 1969 automatic carbs do not have the dash pot assembly on the passenger side rear of the primary carb, and both 1969 & 1970 automatic carbs would have blue colored I.D. tags as opposed to red tags on the primary carbs. In each comparison set the 69 carbs are shown at the top. The second pic of the 69 carbs is a different set that did not have the tape over the choke assembly or the ink stamps added yet.


Flatdad

I thought his carbs were missing the little fuel distribution tabs on the boosters, but maybe I just couldn't see them.

I think that Nick guy could do a great Scarface impression if he wanted to.

fc7cuda


ScottSmith_Harms

Doing some parts inventory today I came across the "missing" part. :)

GY3R/T

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