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Started by cuda hunter, January 11, 2022, 10:21:22 AM

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cuda hunter

I think Joey on the for only sites must make money through the gold memberships where people pay to have more message storage space and a few other things.  Plus they have lots and lots of advertising.  I think it takes a lot of work to get actual profit out of a site. 
"All riches begin as a state of mind and you have complete control of your mind"  -- B. Lee

Jay Bee

Quote from: cuda hunter on June 27, 2023, 05:51:01 AM
Plus they have lots and lots of advertising. 
FWIW, I see 1 advertiser on e-bodies and 17 on FEBO.
Also my uBlock Origin blocked 2 pop-ups/ads on e-bodies vs 34 (& climbing) on FEBO.

cuda hunter

That's a lotta advertising and pop ups. 
Apparently whatever I use works as I don't get the pop ups and I barely see any advertising with the exception of the column on the right of their screen. 

Nothing pisses me off more than advertising. I don't want it, I don't need it.  I will leave if I can't get rid of it. 
Whereas, Roseville is something needed so that advertising is actually useful. 

"All riches begin as a state of mind and you have complete control of your mind"  -- B. Lee


chaps70rt

Cody .... I think you may be correct and trust me we all appreciate your commitment to this.   There must be someone on this site that is IT savvy??   My concern with the existing server is that they are not making any suggestions to why the service is sporadically slow (more than not) and inconsistent.   Can they not offer a solution?   Perhaps we have simply out grown the original platform it was built on?? 

I worked for IBM in my past career, but it was more mainframe and mid-range systems.  The trouble shooting is basically the same I suspect.   

I'm sure that the advertising is a necessary evil (like YouTube) and their response is great, but generates a ton of money (different circumstances).

In this age of the internet that we all use, it's sad that there aren't more technical people that understand the architecture better and can offer a possible
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captcolour

I reached out to my son and this was his response:

"Yeah, I've done that before.  Villa Madonna's site was also hosted by InMotionHosting too...

Should be easy enough to migrate the existing site to a US-based provider with right-sized resources.  Will just take some time to find a provider that's priced competitively and isn't going to cause the same performance issues the current provider is having now.  Most providers charge by the CPU, RAM, and disk space, as well as network speed and the amount of data coming and going."

Jay Bee

Okay, I don't want to jinx things but for the last 2-3 days every time I visited here it was very fast. Even the usual morning slowdowns I'm used to never happened.  I was always  expecting a slowdown on any of my visits but to my pleasant surprise that hasn't materialized - yet. I'm cautiously optimistic.

John

pschlosser

Quote from: chaps70rt on June 29, 2023, 05:08:46 AMThere must be someone on this site that is IT savvy??

I might be IT savvy.  I'm a software engineer when I'm not wrenching a Mopar.  My instinct is the site is slow when it's under attack.  Website attacks are very common, so common, it's a regular part of operating a website.

The forum is run by backend scripts and a database.  All the other parts of the website, such as resources, run on the same server, but I have yet to see a performance issue with these other parts of the site, just the forums.

The forums use quite a bit more CPU (than the other parts of the site) becuase they are running database lookups and serving up formatted pages.  When hammered by an attack, or indexing engine (copying site content for other sites) with load requests in rapid succession, the scripts, CPU(s) and disk access (database) get overwhelmed and slow to a crawl as memory is used up with backed up requests.

There isn't much one can do about it, except go for more expensive hosting, or pay a developer to write more forum code to protect itself from multiple requests coming from the same IP address in short periods of time.

If you've ever tried to edit a huge image file on your computer, or done something else that uses up all the memory, you would know first-hand how it makes a computer crawl like a slug.


Racer57

Quote from: pschlosser on July 04, 2023, 06:11:56 PM
Quote from: chaps70rt on June 29, 2023, 05:08:46 AMThere must be someone on this site that is IT savvy??

I might be IT savvy.  I'm a software engineer when I'm not wrenching a Mopar.  My instinct is the site is slow when it's under attack.  Website attacks are very common, so common, it's a regular part of operating a website.

The forum is run by backend scripts and a database.  All the other parts of the website, such as resources, run on the same server, but I have yet to see a performance issue with these other parts of the site, just the forums.

The forums use quite a bit more CPU (than the other parts of the site) becuase they are running database lookups and serving up formatted pages.  When hammered by an attack, or indexing engine (copying site content for other sites) with load requests in rapid succession, the scripts, CPU(s) and disk access (database) get overwhelmed and slow to a crawl as memory is used up with backed up requests.

There isn't much one can do about it, except go for more expensive hosting, or pay a developer to write more forum code to protect itself from multiple requests coming from the same IP address in short periods of time.

If you've ever tried to edit a huge image file on your computer, or done something else that uses up all the memory, you would know first-hand how it makes a computer crawl like a slug.
You wanna repeat that in English ? Remember your talking to people that work with nuts and bolts !    :D  :D :D :D

Cuda Cody

@cuda hunter  Could you (and anyone else that might notice any issues) let me know if you see any more site delays?  We officially moved the site over to our own server today.  :banana:  Now we are the only ones on the server and it should help us keep the site up and loading fast.  Thanks to @MoparDave  for covering the cost to move to the new server.   :worship:  His sponsorship made it possible to make the jump up.

I really have high hopes that it will solve the issues we used to have in the past.   :please:

Cuda Cody


soundcontrol

Quote from: Cuda Cody on November 16, 2023, 12:59:08 PM
Testing...

Seems to be working now, what happened?

Looks like newer posts in this thread are gone also. I posted here a few days ago.


Cuda Cody

Things are not 100% up yet, but tech guy is still working on it.

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