CUDA 1970 original power steering Firm Feel stage 3 VS Borgeson power steering

[jimynick]

Bon chance, mon ami! 

[GCragtop]

I have ordered several boxes (Stage III) from FFI for my own and customers cars. Nice product and their customer service is great as well.

[shawge]

Check your automobile regulatory entity (ex: the German TUV, sorry I don't know the French equivalent) Recently saw an article where the Netherlands auto bureau did not approve the welded version of the Borgeson box.

[THE ZUKE]

Check your automobile regulatory entity (ex: the German TUV, sorry I don't know the French equivalent) Recently saw an article where the Netherlands auto bureau did not approve the welded version of the Borgeson box.

One of my friends changed two times, firstable on a Mustang 65 and now on a Cuda 73 the power steering by a BORGESON kit.

He is really happy about this modification. As I believe him because he is a good mechanic, I decided to change mine by a BORGESON kit too.

He told "With a BORGESON kit, the direction is like a present car".

When I will receive and change it, I explain you my sensations. 

[73_Cuda_4_Me]

Hey Zuke, just out of curiosity, was your steering feeling really sloppy, like having to turn steering wheel a quarter turn before it actually starts turning???

If the steering wheel feels sloppy - and you can test this with engine idling by watching front wheels while you rotate steering wheel left and right until it moves each way... if you have over 2 inches of steering wheel rim movement (about 1/8 of a turn), it might be your sector shaft adjustment. That is the nut and allen screw on the top of the steering gear box... loosen the locking nut, and screw the allen screw clockwise a quarter turn, then snug lock nut and check.. I did mine almost a full turn this spring, and boy did it help it feel like I was on rails!

Don't go too much, as it can end up binding when it's centered... you want it to feel smooth throughout the range, yet start moving as soon as you turn the wheel)

[THE ZUKE]

Bon chance, mon ami! 

Thank you (Merci beaucoup, the same thing but in French) 

[THE ZUKE]

Hey Zuke, just out of curiosity, was your steering feeling really sloppy, like having to turn steering wheel a quarter turn before it actually starts turning???

If the steering wheel feels sloppy - and you can test this with engine idling by watching front wheels while you rotate steering wheel left and right until it moves each way... if you have over 2 inches of steering wheel rim movement (about 1/8 of a turn), it might be your sector shaft adjustment. That is the nut and allen screw on the top of the steering gear box... loosen the locking nut, and screw the allen screw clockwise a quarter turn, then snug lock nut and check.. I did mine almost a full turn this spring, and boy did it help it feel like I was on rails!

Don't go too much, as it can end up binding when it's centered... you want it to feel smooth throughout the range, yet start moving as soon as you turn the wheel)

Thanks for the explanation.

My car direction has no game but it is much too assisted.

At home (In the country and mountains) the roads turn a lot and with a direction too assisted it is not cool to drive.

The BORGESON kit will give me the feeling of having the same direction as a modern car. (In the best way  ).

[73_Cuda_4_Me]

 

Direction = Turning or steering over here, and we all love to have quick or tight turning or steering!

Game = Play or slop over here, and we all hate that! Glad your car has none!

[THE ZUKE]

I have ordered several boxes (Stage III) from FFI for my own and customers cars. Nice product and their customer service is great as well.

I am sure the stage III is good but for french the price is really expensive with all taxes, shipping...

For us the best way is to find an old on EBAY in the United states rather than use mine.

If I compare both prices are similar between Borgeson and Firm feel stage III.

[THE ZUKE]

Direction = Turning or steering over here, and we all love to have quick or tight turning or steering!

Game = Play or slop over here, and we all hate that! Glad your car has none!

LOL  your answer is like a good joke. 

[soundcontrol]

For us it is not easy with Firmfeel because we need to buy an old original in United States.
After to send it to Fimfeel, to fix and modified it and finally they send us the purpose modified.
The price at home with everything inclused (taxes, shipping, etc) is around 1100 US dollars (expensive...).

You don't have to buy an old one, I bought one from Firmfeel (I live in Sweden), I paid the Core fee of $175 instead.
My total for the steering box (stage 2) was 359+175 = $534, shipping and taxes added later (but I shipped in a container so it was cheap).

[70chall440]

I have 2 FF Stage III boxes; one in my Challenger and one in my Cuda; love them.

[THE ZUKE]

For us it is not easy with Firmfeel because we need to buy an old original in United States.
After to send it to Fimfeel, to fix and modified it and finally they send us the purpose modified.
The price at home with everything inclused (taxes, shipping, etc) is around 1100 US dollars (expensive...).

You don't have to buy an old one, I bought one from Firmfeel (I live in Sweden), I paid the Core fee of $175 instead.
My total for the steering box (stage 2) was 359+175 = $534, shipping and taxes added later (but I shipped in a container so it was cheap).

Ok  thank you for explanations.

One of my french friends did the same thing as you but with an old US original power steering buying there. The price all inclused arriving in France was around 1000 Euros. 

[THE ZUKE]

News 

The power steering kit BORGESON is at home. Yeah !!! with the yellow pinion for the cable speedometer. Yeah !!! again.

Now ??? I need some time to change all these pieces. 

[RUNCHARGER]

That was fast. Good luck with the changeover.