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Suspension Upgrades on Stock e-body Suspension

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soundcontrol

Quote from: GoodysGotaCuda on March 11, 2020, 11:46:16 AM

I have Wilwoods on the front and back and don't think I'd buy the same setup again. I now dream of having sliding calipers...


What is it with the Wilwoods that you don't like?

moparcar

Quote from: GoodysGotaCuda on March 11, 2020, 11:46:16 AM
Quote from: soundcontrol on March 08, 2020, 04:22:36 PM
This is what I decided on after making lots of research.

Body reinforcement
Kit from US Car Tool, subframe connectors, inner fender braces, Core support.

Suspension Parts from Firmfeel;
HD Street/Road Race/Track leaf springs
Suspension Rebuild Kit
Upper Control Arms
Front Sway Bar Kit 1-1/8   
Rear Sway Bar Kit 3/4" (AAR/TA design)     
1.00 Torsion Bar: HD/ Street app             
LCA reinforcement plates     
LCA Greasable Pivot Pins
Bilstein Shocks     
Selector support kit                         
Fast ratio pitman arm       
Fast ratio idler arm         
Firmfeel steering Stage II             
K-frame reinforcement plates

Drum spindles (used)

Brakes:
Wilwood front Kit 12.88 6 piston           
Wilwood rear kit                     
Hydraboost system
Wilwood Master Cylinder

I have Wilwoods on the front and back and don't think I'd buy the same setup again. I now dream of having sliding calipers...


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If that's because of pad knock back on the rear try the Wilwood D154 calipers. Lots of info on Lateral G on this. Minus a floater rear end, this more or less solves it. Not as sexy as a fixed, but gets it done with the sliders.

GoodysGotaCuda

Quote from: MoparCar on March 11, 2020, 04:56:01 PM
Quote from: GoodysGotaCuda on March 11, 2020, 11:46:16 AM
Quote from: soundcontrol on March 08, 2020, 04:22:36 PM
This is what I decided on after making lots of research.

Brakes:
Wilwood front Kit 12.88 6 piston           
Wilwood rear kit                     
Hydraboost system
Wilwood Master Cylinder

I have Wilwoods on the front and back and don't think I'd buy the same setup again. I now dream of having sliding calipers...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If that's because of pad knock back on the rear try the Wilwood D154 calipers. Lots of info on Lateral G on this. Minus a floater rear end, this more or less solves it. Not as sexy as a fixed, but gets it done with the sliders.

This ^

Are you saying there is a sliding Wilwood caliper retrofit? A floater diff would be nice, but far from necessary for my street car.
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moparcar

Quote from: GoodysGotaCuda on March 11, 2020, 06:01:29 PM
Quote from: MoparCar on March 11, 2020, 04:56:01 PM
Quote from: GoodysGotaCuda on March 11, 2020, 11:46:16 AM
Quote from: soundcontrol on March 08, 2020, 04:22:36 PM
This is what I decided on after making lots of research.

Brakes:
Wilwood front Kit 12.88 6 piston           
Wilwood rear kit                     
Hydraboost system
Wilwood Master Cylinder

I have Wilwoods on the front and back and don't think I'd buy the same setup again. I now dream of having sliding calipers...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If that's because of pad knock back on the rear try the Wilwood D154 calipers. Lots of info on Lateral G on this. Minus a floater rear end, this more or less solves it. Not as sexy as a fixed, but gets it done with the sliders.

This ^

Are you saying there is a sliding Wilwood caliper retrofit? A floater diff would be nice, but far from necessary for my street car.

Search Lateral G forum for this.
https://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/BrakeKitListRear?mincatdesc=D154%20Rear%20Caliper%20Kit

70vert

Lots of great feedback already, but here is my experience:

I highly recommend Firm Feel! I had replaced my power steering box about 8 years ago with one of their "level2" units and it has been great, noticeable improvement. So I decided to use them for front suspension:
* tubular upper control arm - for more adjustability
* torsion bars - 1.06 -heavy 440
* Bilstein RCD shocks - front & back
I also switched got Nitto A555 G2
And I also installed PST Polygraphite bushings on the rear springs,
Just did this about 3 weeks ago but I am amazed at how much better the car drives, it is a huge improvement

A while back I had converted to 4-wheel disc brakes. I used SSBC, and would not recommend them (separate story). I tried several things to get enough vacuum and never could get consistent firm pedal. So I converted to a HydroBoost system, with a Wilwood master cylinder. Again, just a huge difference and so glad I spent  the money. Not cheap but worth it, braking safety:)

Chryco Psycho

Wilwoods do not have dust seals either , they are more of a race application than long term street use

GCragtop

I have purchased parts from FFI and Doctor Diff, I highly recommend them both!


Mr Lee

I would say yes on the thicker sway bars and torsion bars, bushings etc...   I would say there's probably a happy medium as to how stiff you may want the car depending on how hard you drive it.  Some here want it to handle like a race car for auto-cross events etc.  I just want to cruise some nice curvy back roads. 

Here's what I've done to my car:
Suspension -
Front sway bar went from stock 7/8" to 1-1/8"
Rear sway bar went from 3/4" to 7/8"
Torsion bars - went with 1"
Thicker solid aluminum strut rods although I don't know the diameters.
I didn't do the lower control arm stiffeners but think they're a good idea.  The LCA's are kind of a crude design in my opinion.

Steering:
Firm feel box (I did level 2)
Fast ratio pitman arm and idler arm. 
Thicker solid aluminum tie rods
Power Steering pump pressure reduction mod - Since the factory PS pump is so damn strong, it gives no feel for the road.  There was a mod published in one of the mopar magazines years ago which tones down the pressure a bit.  I can't seem to find the article but I have screenshots from my iPad I will post on how to do it. 

How does it drive?  I don't know yet.  lol  Car's should be done this summer. 
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