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[Cuda70-74]

Just got my bellhousing i guess for a reasonable price 281 shipped.

[JS29]

Not bad, with shipping that seams reasonable enough. 

[Cuda70-74]

Not bad, with shipping that seams reasonable enough. 

Yes indeed. I want to get some grade 8 bolts from the hardware store I just want to know how long does the bolt have to be.

[JS29]

Not bad, with shipping that seams reasonable enough. 

Yes indeed. I want to get some grade 8 bolts from the hardware store I just want to know how long does the bolt have to be.

@Cuda70-74    I would insert a rod of some sort into the block, measure the bell, figure in lock washers and get as close as i can. remember a bolt achieves it maximum strength at the depth that is equal to it's diameter. in another word the deeper it's inserted doesn't make it any stronger.   

[Cuda70-74]

Not bad, with shipping that seams reasonable enough. 

Yes indeed. I want to get some grade 8 bolts from the hardware store I just want to know how long does the bolt have to be.

@Cuda70-74    I would insert a rod of some sort into the block, measure the bell, figure in lock washers and get as close as i can. remember a bolt achieves it maximum strength at the depth that is equal to it's diameter. in another word the deeper it's inserted doesn't make it any stronger.   

Thanks again ill try that

[Cuda70-74]

Tranny came in today. She is comig along

[YellowThumper]

FYI maximum strength is reached at 1 to 1.5 length of a given diameter. Fine threads, hardened steel and grade 8 products are close to 1 to 1. Anything less such as aluminum should be around the 1.5 length to diameter.

[Cuda70-74]

Hi im just wondering if anybody knows how much do u have to shave off the input shaft on the a833 tranny so it will fit in a 5.7 hemi?

[JS29]

 

[b5cuda]

I'm planning to do the same (833 behind a 5.7) and saved the  info on this post (below) from Blake at DIY Hemi.  He says 7/8" and has a lot of good additional info.  Can't recall where I got this from, but Blake is on the site sometimes. 

I put an 833 behind my 5.7 and have a Lakewood bellhousing to run a tremec 5 speed.  The positives about the 833. 1) A direct swap and easy to find2) Custom driveshaft not necessary 3) Easy to rebuild4) Plethora of clutch options 5) manual and hydraulic clutch options6) fairly lightweight7) several bellhousing options, including SFI approvedAmerican Powertrain sells the correct flywheel for this swap and I was able to get it for 260 shipped to my door. It uses the standard old school 10.5" clutch bolt pattern and there are worlds of clutches available. A little inside scoop, it's a typical Chrysler 8 bolt 10.5" flywheel that some companies pretend is something special. I'm pretty sure it's made by McLeod based on packaging. I'm running a Ram power grip clutch with  manual Z bar and timken throw out bearing. Hydraulic throw out  is better, but I had everything for the manual setup, so I'm doing that for now.You will need the pilot bearing from a 99ish Dakota V8 with manual transmission (will get the part number). The starter from a 2005 2500 HD Hemi Ram truck fits tighter and is nicer than any aftermarket mini starter. I'll get you a number for that too. You will also need to cut 7/8" off the top of your input shaft.Remember to check your bellhousing runout. Tolerances should be no more than 0.006 total in any direction. I had to order offset dowels to achieve this while using a factory 1970 833 bellhousing. The dowels are cheap and worth the time to set it right.I also used all ARP bolts for the swap. Chrysler small block bellhousing bolt kit , Chevrolet pressure plate bolt kit and 5.7/6.1 flywheel crank bolt kit

[Cuda70-74]

I'm planning to do the same (833 behind a 5.7) and saved the  info on this post (below) from Blake at DIY Hemi.  He says 7/8" and has a lot of good additional info.  Can't recall where I got this from, but Blake is on the site sometimes. 

I put an 833 behind my 5.7 and have a Lakewood bellhousing to run a tremec 5 speed.  The positives about the 833. 1) A direct swap and easy to find2) Custom driveshaft not necessary 3) Easy to rebuild4) Plethora of clutch options 5) manual and hydraulic clutch options6) fairly lightweight7) several bellhousing options, including SFI approvedAmerican Powertrain sells the correct flywheel for this swap and I was able to get it for 260 shipped to my door. It uses the standard old school 10.5" clutch bolt pattern and there are worlds of clutches available. A little inside scoop, it's a typical Chrysler 8 bolt 10.5" flywheel that some companies pretend is something special. I'm pretty sure it's made by McLeod based on packaging. I'm running a Ram power grip clutch with  manual Z bar and timken throw out bearing. Hydraulic throw out  is better, but I had everything for the manual setup, so I'm doing that for now.You will need the pilot bearing from a 99ish Dakota V8 with manual transmission (will get the part number). The starter from a 2005 2500 HD Hemi Ram truck fits tighter and is nicer than any aftermarket mini starter. I'll get you a number for that too. You will also need to cut 7/8" off the top of your input shaft.Remember to check your bellhousing runout. Tolerances should be no more than 0.006 total in any direction. I had to order offset dowels to achieve this while using a factory 1970 833 bellhousing. The dowels are cheap and worth the time to set it right.I also used all ARP bolts for the swap. Chrysler small block bellhousing bolt kit , Chevrolet pressure plate bolt kit and 5.7/6.1 flywheel crank bolt kit

Thanks for the info really appreciated it.

[Cuda70-74]

Was this the pilot bearing you're talking about i need.https://www.rockauto.com/en/cart/

[b5cuda]

I haven't bought one yet so can't confirm, but I've been told to order the pilot bearing for a '96 Ram with 5.9 motor.   

[Cuda70-74]

Its this one https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/mopar,53009180AB,clutch+pilot+bearing,1964

[b5cuda]

Thanks - you're a few steps ahead of me, let me know how it goes!